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Amenorrhea & natural inducing of period

I have been told that I potentially have amenorrhea (absence of a menstrual period) due to a relatively rapid and slightly considerable weight loss over the past 9 months. I saw a gynecologist and she prescribed proestrogen but it did not induce my period. Today I bought some vitex, and I attempted to get some mugwort but couldn't find it anywhere so I will probably end up ordering it online.
Is there anything else anyone would suggest to help induce my period naturally or any comments about those two herbs that you think are important to know? I am not on any other medication or supplements, but I do take a multivitamin and evening primrose oil.
Thanks so much!

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lisianthia
Jun. 7th, 2008 10:49 pm (UTC)
Have you been checked for PCOS? That is a culprit for amenorrhea in a lot of cases?
yumcheesy
Jun. 7th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
i've read that 'too much' vitamin c can induce your period (and possibly cause miscarriages)

http://angryforareason.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-induce-miscarriage-herbally-and.html
"During the 3 days (or until your period starts) take high doses of Vitamin C orally. Ideally, take 500 mg every hour up to 6000 mg. You can continue using the Vitamin C for up to 6 days. Vitamin C can bring on menstruation even 3 weeks after a "late" period. you can begin taking Vitamin C immediately after unsafe sex, or if the condom broke, etc.If successful you should start to bleed in 2 to 3 days.Notes:-You may have cramps (I get 'em bad after doing this) and you can take whatever you usually take for cramps or make a ginger infusion and take that.-The chances of success are less if you regularly take high doses of Vitamin C-High amounts of Vitmain C can cause loose stools. No one I know has experienced this, but is has been known to happen.-Do not use if you have kidney problems.I've often noticed that on the second night I start emanating heat. Seriously I feel like a space heater. This is ok, it's just a side effect of the high doses of Vit. C and to me signifies that it worked and I will get my period soon (generally that night/next morning)"
feministyogini
Jun. 8th, 2008 06:16 am (UTC)
Is this for real? I'm all for natural remedies for women's health but vitamin C sounds like a bunch of hooey, particularly the part about take vitamin C immediately after unsafe sex.
purealto
Jun. 8th, 2008 01:50 pm (UTC)
I learned in college that Vitamin C is an abortifacient (it can induce a miscarriage).
feministyogini
Jun. 9th, 2008 03:05 am (UTC)
I study reproduction from a feminist perspective and I haven't heard about this, that's why I was suspicious. I'll look into it.
cluelessinchi
Jun. 7th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
It is normal if one is under a certain weight not to have a menstrual cycle. Is there any discussion on how to gain the weight back so that you can ovulate?
volcanoandice
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:15 am (UTC)
It's not about being under a certain number of pounds in weight, it's about body fat percentage. I started having my regular monthly periods at 15 and I was 95 pounds at that time.
cluelessinchi
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:47 am (UTC)
That is true I guess I had not been as clear as I would have liked, however rainbow replied and was able to express what I was was attempting to communicate quite well.
volcanoandice
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:52 am (UTC)
That's fine... I figured that's what you meant, most people mean that, they just say weight instead. I just didn't want to give this person the wrong perception.
cluelessinchi
Jun. 8th, 2008 03:08 am (UTC)
Thank you. I appreciate that.
volcanoandice
Jun. 8th, 2008 04:35 am (UTC)
No problemo. :)
ilanstermonster
Jun. 8th, 2008 06:00 am (UTC)
i agree that my body fat percentage is very low and is probably causing this problem. do any of you know a way to gain "good" body fat without actually gaining too much weight (as far as bad weight, i mean) on top of it? i abide by a vegan diet, if that helps your responses.
thesynergizer
Jun. 8th, 2008 07:51 pm (UTC)
avocado. olive oil. flaxseed oil.
vilify
Jun. 9th, 2008 11:10 am (UTC)
Peanut butter? That's one thing that helped my brother gain weight when his plummeted but it was also what brought about the most noticeable improvement.
deliriumdreams
Jun. 7th, 2008 11:09 pm (UTC)
I agree with prior comments. I know when I am below a certain weight, I don't menstrate. For me, this meant I was underweight and needed to put some pounds on to be healthy. Assuming that you aren't underweight, cohosh has been used for ages to regulate menstrual cycles, so you might want to research that.
wrenb
Jun. 7th, 2008 11:49 pm (UTC)
It's very hard to induce a period in an anovulatory cycle. Ask me how I know. :) That said, parsley pessaries and ginger tea work relatively well. Check out bloodmoonherbs and also Sister Zeus on delayed menstruation.
Good luck!
soleil_du_matin
Jun. 8th, 2008 12:05 am (UTC)
I make tea with fresh parsley. I drink 3 cups a day and usually get my period in two days.
rainbow
Jun. 8th, 2008 12:32 am (UTC)
If you're low enough on body fat that your body couldn't support a fetus, you wont' ovulate and you won't get the build of of endometrial tissue that would be needed to support the fetus, so you also won't have menstrual bleeding -- there just isn't anything there to clear out since a period is just the unused endometrial tissue sloughing off. There's no way to induce bleeding if there's nothing there to be expelled.

All you can really do is focus on building up enough body fat so that your body decides there are enough resources to support a pregnancy.
amberskyfire
Jun. 8th, 2008 12:35 am (UTC)
I completely agree with this! You can't force your body to do what it's physically incapable of doing because it does not have enough resources. I say give it time and once your body is used to your new weight (or you gain some back) everything will start working normally again. There's a reason you stopped having a period, so instead of treating the symptom, it should work to help along the cause :)
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autumn_sylver
Jun. 8th, 2008 05:54 am (UTC)
Given that, I'm not going to suggest what I was going to suggest.
ilanstermonster
Jun. 8th, 2008 06:40 am (UTC)
ahem, i'll repeat:
"that community is for low calorie recipes and it is a community i joined a long time ago while i was still trying to lose weight and just havent taken off my list...it is a very inactive community so to be honest i forgot that i was even in it because i hardly ever see posts from it on my friends page."
ilanstermonster
Jun. 8th, 2008 05:58 am (UTC)
thank you rainbow for explaining that to me so well. i see now that these herbs and such will not be enough to get it back.
and to amberskyfire, your comment "instead of treating the symptom, it should work to help along the cause :)" really put the situation in perspective and you are absolutely right!
lunadragonfly, that community is for low calorie recipes and it is a community i joined a long time ago while i was still trying to lose weight and just havent taken off my list...it is a very inactive community so to be honest i forgot that i was even in it because i hardly ever see posts from it on my friends page.
thank you all for your help.
volcanoandice
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:24 am (UTC)
You absolutely must have 13% body fat to have a properly functioning menstrual cycle (assuming you have no other medical issue involved, of course). I don't know what weight, height or body type you are but those numbers are all unimportant, actually... you just need a percentage at or above this number. It's been recorded in many medical journals, I definitely recommend looking into the pubmed database and the NIH site, etc. you can find a lot of studies on young women on this topic.


13% is also a very low number, anyway. It varies on height, bone structure, etc. of course, but you will be hard-pressed to find someone with a fat percentage this low who is over 16-17. Even the runway models that some women love to trash are well over the 13% mark.


There are many healthy foods you can eat and exercises you can do to bring up the percentage, I recommend seeing a nutritionist. You will need to eat things like nuts, eggs, fish, vegetable oils, dairy and certain vegetables as well. Good luck, I hope you get better soon. The primrose oil, cohosh, fenugreek or any of the other supplements won't help because this involves fat and not hormones.
ilanstermonster
Jun. 8th, 2008 05:52 am (UTC)
yes everyone has been saying the whole body fat percentage is off and that is what is causing the problem. i do see a nutritionist once a week and she is trying to help me adjust to my new weight. plus i am a vegan, so alot of the sources for the proper nutrients that you suggested are out of the question, but i do see where you are coming from and appreciate your response :)
velvetpage
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:24 am (UTC)
Has your weight stabilised at something your doctor considers healthy? If not, getting your weight stabilised is important for long-term health, and once your weight is stable and healthy, your cycle should begin again normally. I wouldn't rush that, really - start eating in a way that is normal and natural, and the result should be stabilization of your weight and health.
excusetheblood
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:39 am (UTC)
i know how to induce a period early.
i've done this a few times when i needed my period to start early due to camping or other trips.

take an entire bunch of fresh parsley and slow simmer it into a green syrup. strain out the parsley, steep dried ginger, peppermint, st. johns wort, hibiscus, into the parsley tea. add a dropper full of yarrow and mug wort and drink up! it should start while drinking. i usually make about 4 cups of the mixture and slowly drink it all day.
irishtechno
Jun. 8th, 2008 04:49 am (UTC)
Re: i know how to induce a period early.
I've been watching this post with much interest. Reason being, I've never had regular cycles since I got my first period at age 11. I'm 28 now and at an okay weight of 185 (65in height). I can go up to a year without my cycle showing up. I should be on b/c but I can't ever get into the habit of taking a pill every day.

My question would be how much liquid would you simmer the parsley in? What would the liquid be, water most likely? What would be the absolute most important ingredients (if you couldn't get yarrow or mugwort, etc) besides the parsley?

I'm curious because I'd rather go a natural route as opposed to having a bunch of drugs circulating in my system. Thanks in advance
excusetheblood
Jun. 8th, 2008 02:00 pm (UTC)
Re: i know how to induce a period early.
i wish i still had the book for which i got the recipe from. i'd assume enough water to cover the entire bunch of pasrley, and SLOW SIMMER it on low for an hour or so. next important is the hibiscus and the ginger, st johns wort, mint.
flayre
Jun. 8th, 2008 05:38 am (UTC)
What was your dosage on progesterone? Aside from the rapid weight loss and now knowing exactly what your body fat percentage is, I'd guess the dosage your doc put you on wasn't high enough to induce a period. Was it Provera or Prometrium?
ilanstermonster
Jun. 8th, 2008 05:50 am (UTC)
i believe the dosage was 10mg for 10 days of provera
flayre
Jun. 8th, 2008 10:31 pm (UTC)
Someone else on another board of mine wasn't able to induce a period with only 10mg of Provera. I'd see if your doc will instead prescribe Prometrium. I think it needs to be at least 100mg for 10 days. OR, your other option is Progon B, which is an over the counter, plant-derived, sublingual progesterone. The bottle says that 8 pills equals 105mg of progesterone. It worked for me to get pregnant, so maybe it would help induce a period as well.
crackedemulsion
Jun. 8th, 2008 09:58 am (UTC)
i will warn you now...
mugwort tastes like vomit andw ill only work if you can keep it down...it is indeed a wonderful detoxer though. i've never had it effect my periods though. i'm curious to see how it works. keep us updated!
echoinginsanity
Jun. 10th, 2008 03:59 am (UTC)
Queen of the missing period's 2 cents
I will vote for the parsley tea/syrup recommended above. I would like to point out that Vitamin C can be used with a small amount of reliability as an abortifacient in the first month or so of pregnancy (and if you would like more information on vitamin C, I can send some articles and links, as well as some anecdotal evidence from assisting some friends in its use) but WILL NOT generally cause a shed of the uterine lining/period.

It should also be noted that although it's not the best idea to take medication to miss your cycle, you can be perfectly healthy having 3-4 cycles per year.

Sadly, there are very few remedies for amenorrhea, save hormone therapy. I've been dealing with less than 6 periods a year since my menarche (my record being 5 in 2005, when I was on combo BC the whole year) and my doctors were never able to find the culprit, save genetics, and have found that a few, sporadic (but NATURAL) cycles a year are better than pumping myself full of hormones just because everyone else cycles regularly. If it lasts for a truly long time, your OB/GYN may recommend a procedure similar to menstrual extraction, which is an early, less-invasive relative of the infamous D&C, to reduce any build-up.

You should talk to your doctor about how she feels it should be handled, and how aggressively she wants to treat it. Then you should consider how YOU feel about it. Many doctors will offer a remedy when nothing more than patience is needed. For some people (and you are most likely one of them), the pause is temporary and short-term, and you can stay healthy without a cycle while your weight balances out. The only serious concern (other than infertility) is a build-up of the uterine lining which can increase the change of cysts and, in rare cases, endometriosis. It takes a while for this to become a true health concern, so if you are simply missing a month or two, try some parsley tea (or syrup-tea, that recipe looks interesting!) and try to get back in tune with what your body needs and wants from you. Best of luck!
echoinginsanity
Jun. 10th, 2008 04:01 am (UTC)
Re: Queen of the missing period's 2 cents
OH! And you are not alone in not reacting to progesterone. It never worked for me on its own, either. :)
wildmagelet
Oct. 11th, 2008 02:52 am (UTC)
I realise that you posted this a couple of months ago, but can I be really personal and ask if you've had any success getting your period to start again? I've been having the same problem; last year, over a period of about six months, I lost about 25 kg, something like a third of my body weight, but it threw my body into shock, I think! I've been having depression and skin problems for the first time and I'm yet to have a period this year. I'm not technically underweight (I'm 5'6" and weigh around 57 kg/125-ish pounds) and earlier in the year, my body fat percentage wasn't that low, although that may have changed. However, I'm not sure how to get my period back short of putting all the weight back on again. I've been told that I may have to put on at least 5 kg, which I can hopefully get my head around (it's hard when you're used to being in a weight loss and weight maintenance frame of mind to think about purposefully gaining weight!), but I'm not sure how to do it without going overboard and becoming overweight again. I'm a vegetarian and allergic to nuts, so the usual advice to fill up on the 'good fats' like peanut butter and salmon doesn't really work.

Sorry for the TMI post, but I was just so relieved, frankly, to see that I'm not alone in this problem!
ilanstermonster
Oct. 11th, 2008 11:53 pm (UTC)
Hey lady.
I actually still have not regained my period back. I didn't continue to take the vitex or buy mugwort mainly because after this thread I realized pretty much what the user Rainbow stated above was exactly correct:
"If you're low enough on body fat that your body couldn't support a fetus, you wont' ovulate and you won't get the build of of endometrial tissue that would be needed to support the fetus, so you also won't have menstrual bleeding -- there just isn't anything there to clear out since a period is just the unused endometrial tissue sloughing off. There's no way to induce bleeding if there's nothing there to be expelled.

All you can really do is focus on building up enough body fat so that your body decides there are enough resources to support a pregnancy."

I very much understand your reservation about gaining weight back because that is exactly how I feel/felt, which is probably why I still have not got my period. I HAVE been eating more good fats such as nuts/seeds, avocado, hemp oil and olive oil, etc and noticed that I gained weight back in my *ahem* chest area, which is nice and shows that the fat is going toward a womanly centered area which hopefully means it might be affecting my period somehow also?! So I think doing that plus having some what of a stabilized weight the last several months (within the same 5 pound range) might hopefully help. Since you are not underweight, and you have a healthy body fat percentage, I bet just the rapid weight loss is what is causing the issue and that you will get your period back once you maintain the weight youre at for awhile. I wish I could give you more advice. GOOD LUCK!
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