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"no poo" safe for colored hair?

HI! I'm new here and have found so much information that I've been wondering about but so far I haven't been able to find out anything about using the "No Poo" method on hair thats dyed with semi-permanent hair dyes like Manic Panic and Special Effects. My hair is always a combination of unnatural colors. and I'm nervous to try using the baking soda/apple cider because I don't want it to drastically fade the color of my hair. Has anyone tried this with semi-permanent  colored hair? If this fades my hair too much, does anyone know of a more natural eco-friendly vegan shampoo and conditioner that won't zap the color from my hair? Thanks!


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Oct. 20th, 2010 10:35 pm (UTC)
The baking soda method definitely yanks the color right out. I actually use baking soda/apple cider to fade colors faster (ie - I want this color to hurry up and wash out to a point that I can put another color in).

I end up using Kiss My Face, but I'm not sure if that's completely vegan. I know it isn't tested on animals and is organic, so it might be worth looking into!
Oct. 20th, 2010 10:46 pm (UTC)
It's really interesting that you posted this question here because a couple of days I posted on a get_up_dread_up with a similar concern. I'm trying for natural (or 'neglect') dreads, and I'm worried about my blue hair (which already fades super fast) and a residue-free or baking soda washing scheme. \

So far I've heard there's not much we can do about it :(
Oct. 20th, 2010 11:08 pm (UTC)
iirc, the big issue is that baking soda is alkaline, and alkalinity makes the hair more porous so the dye is washed off/out more easily.

while it's not no-poo, choosing a veg-based natural liquid soap and adding enough vinegar to it to make it slightly acidic instead of alkaline makes my hair colour (special effects brand) last much longer than just using soap (which is also alkaline).
Oct. 20th, 2010 11:44 pm (UTC)
Yay! I was hoping someone would post an answer to this - I've been having the same problem.
Thank you!!!!!!
Oct. 21st, 2010 12:03 am (UTC)
What about conditioner only methods? You could possibly add extra dye to the condish :).
Oct. 21st, 2010 12:11 am (UTC)
This. I've been doing CO for about 2 years and my hairdye lasts nearly twice as long it did when I used to use shampoo. Sometimes I do add dye to the conditioner but that doesn't seem to help a lot until it gets to the point where the dye in the conditioner is staining my hands, but that may just be the colors I'm using. I use Special Effects Blue Velvet (or sometimes Manic Panic Aftermidnight Blue).

Baking soda and vinegar stripped dye from my hair like crazy (in addition to making the texture awful) so I gave that up right quick.
Oct. 21st, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
i did this with my pink hair. turns out if you want a lighter shade of the color you're currently using, you can mix it to the desired intensity with the condition & apply, and your color should turn similar. i was trying for a light cotton candy pink at the time :)
Oct. 21st, 2010 01:31 am (UTC)
Agree. I had great results with this for about a year and a half. Then I started getting flaky scalp and now I'm shampooing about once a week or so...
Oct. 21st, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)
I'm in agreement with everyone above. Baking soda is how I prep my hair before dyeing, and it really strips color. I do vinegar rinses the first few days to help it all stop bleeding so much, and I don't notice a lot of fade from that. I use trader joes moisture spa shampoo and conditioner, they're $3 a bottle, no animal testing, and sulfate free. Going sulfate free has extended the life of my dye jobs significantly, as well as the health of my hair.
Oct. 21st, 2010 02:28 am (UTC)
I recently started using abba (http://www.abbahaircare.com/>) and I love it. It's vegan, sulfate-free, the whole lot. It's a pro product so you may need to find it in a salon. Works wonders, amazing smell, super healthy hair.
Oct. 21st, 2010 03:31 am (UTC)
It has already been said that baking soda will strip the dye out of your hair, so I just wanted to add my 2¢ from when I tried no poo. I tried it twice, and both times it was a disaster.
The baking soda worked great the first couple of times (even though it stripped the dye out of my hair in some places, making it look patchy), but then it sort of stopped working. The greasier my hair got, the less it worked. After about 2 weeks, it looked like an oil slick and my scalp was so itchy it was driving me crazy. After about another week of that (I wanted to give it time because I kept hearing about this transition phase that your hair supposedly goes through), I cracked and shampooed my hair.
The second time I tried no poo, I tried epsom salt, and the same thing happened.

I just wanted to give you another point of view, because usually on posts about no poo, all of the responses are usually how great it is, but it's not going to be so great for everybody.
Oct. 21st, 2010 07:40 am (UTC)
Not sure how natural or vegan friendly this is, but I think read somewhere of someone using cornstarch/baby powder and crushing up sidewalk chalk the color of your hair and mixing it with the powder. I haven't tried this method but it might be worth a try.
Oct. 21st, 2010 02:23 pm (UTC)
I've been doing no-poo for about six months now, and I've evolved to only rinsing with water, and rarely at that. But that could be influenced by it being cold here now and my hair taking forever to dry. I barely just brush it whenever I can find my brush to spread what little oils I've produced. But yeah, the less I do to my hair, the better it looks and feels, and it will also make it fade less. So yeah, 2¢.
Oct. 21st, 2010 04:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you guys so much for all of your help! I'm actually trying to fade my green hair right now so the info about using baking soda to do it is perfect timing:) I'm going to try the conditioner only method and pick up a vegan sulfate free shampoo and add apple cider vinegar in case I need it. Thank you so much!!!!
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